I just picked up the Umbra Standard to hopefully replace my Ergoplay and I'm really happy with it so far! I've used the Ergoplay for about 13 years and it's been fine, but I really like the adjustability of the Sagework and it's great that it fits so easily in my guitar case. Plus the magnets are just really cool! I'm a 6' tall male, and the standard gives me a range of height/angle that is perfectly suited to me, and maybe even goes a little higher than I would want to go. Yes this is a little heavier than some other supports, but I think that adds to the overall feeling of stability, and we're still talking less than a pound of additional weight. Others have noted that it's a little pricey - it's definitely a little more expensive than some other supports like the Ergoplay and the Gitano, but many other supports out there cost just as much if not more (the GuitarLift or the Murata for example).
I did have a little trouble getting it installed, but only because my guitar has some structural elements inside that made it a pretty tight squeeze to get the magnets correctly in place. However, this wasn't a big impediment, I just had to be extra careful, and the magnet on the upper bout just barely fits between the linings. It's probably not necesary, but I installed some vinyl cling sheets on my guitar where the cork pads touch just for some extra protection.
I still have my Ergoplay and may still use it on my second guitar, but overall I'm very happy with the Sagework and don't think I'll ever switch!
I have used this support for a while and it is very comfortable and versatile for different size players. I changed my posture over a period of time and changed from the short support to the standard length by swapping out the arm to accommodate this. The way the support attaches is so convenient and the folded down unit fits in a guitar case. I continue to be happy with this product and would recommend it.
I absolutely love the Sagework Umbra guitar support. I am 5'9" and couldn't decide which size to order so I ordered the standard as well as the short arm. I did this because after reading a few other reviews on here, I was concerned that the standard would be too big. Well...I returned the short arm without ever even installing it. The only time the support feels too big is if I am sitting in a poor playing position in a low sitting chair. This type of position isn't conducive to good form nor playing so it isn't a problem for me. However if you are my size and like to play your instrument while sitting in a chair that sits low to the ground the standard size may very well place the guitar in too high a position to play comfortably. If you sit with good posture and form and you are my size save your money and just buy the standard size. After much research I landed on the Sagework as being the most cost effective option for me as well as the best option PERIOD. The attachment method of other highly rated supports (suction cups) and construction (stamped metal) seems pretty cheesy to me. There is nothing cheesy about the Sagework. The magnets that hold the support on are very strong and the design is beautiful. I've yet to permanently place the magnets inside the guitar so right now i just leave the support on at all times with my guitar hanging on the wall, but once the magnets are installed, removal and installation of the support will be incredibly easy. As I have no real reason to remove the support it will probably just live on my instrument. The support looks great attached to the guitar and if anything adds interest and beauty. I personally love and prefer the all black high quality plastic of the Umbra model although the wood version is also beautiful. Functionally speaking the support is excellent, rock solid, and adjusts in myriad ways. I would definitely recommend (if you can) to put the magnets in your guitar, install the support and just leave it that way for some time before committing to where you want the magnets to be permanently installed. Your search has ended, just buy this one and forget the others even exist because this is the only support you will ever need. In addition to everything I've already said I just want to add one last thing. The support has definitely improved my playing, it puts the guitar in a rock solid position and it just stays there AND your body is happy because your feet are flat on the ground. I love it. And I guarantee if you buy one you will also love it. Thank you Sagework for making such and excellent product!
I was so happy to fold up my footstool and put it away. That and the bolster on my knee. Good riddance! The Umbra has been comfortable from day one, and puts the guitar in a much better position. My first experience with a support and I’ll look no further. Pity I’ve played for 40 years without one.
I purchased the command stripps and I received a allen wrench key.He aso was very nice in send everything in one package even thou.
i orded the allen wrench on a sepreate day from the comman stripps
I am an adult with shorter stature (65in). I tried a support which used suction cups and found that my classical guitar sat too high - the upper bout was near my chin. I bought the Umbra Short support and I gave it a 5* review - so much better RE lower back and hip discomfort as compared with footrest. However, the neck of the guitar was placed at a lower angle and I had to externally rotate the left wrist uncomfortably - this became apparent after a few weeks playing. I replaced the Short arm with the Standard arm and then removed the very short curved arm which attaches to the lower bout - there are pre-drilled holes to re-attach the magnet. This has allowed better placement overall - the upper bout sits just below the manubrium (the bony joint at the upper sternum) and the neck angle allows for the left hand to approach the neck without unnatural rotation of the wrist - closer to 45degrees. In summary, the Standard support is very adjustable and I believe this allows for very successful positioning of the classical guitar for a short stature adult (65in).
First, the service was excellent. The product was shipped the same day the order was placed and it arrived in good order.
Second, the support is elegantly simple. The concept is very ingenious. The design and production quality are excellent. The materials are top-notch and will be quite durable. The range of adjustment is excellent.
Thanks for such a great product and buying experience!
I wish there was some way for measuring. I think standard may have been the wrong size. My teacher will help me decide in a week or so.
Will I be able to return for the shorter model?
I recently purchased the Sagework guitar support and it was a wonderful decision. I have used a dynarette cushion for 13 years and I did not realize what I was missing until I received this new support.
This support is incredibly well-designed and gives the guitarist full control over all of the aspects of positioning the body with the instrument, which was lacking in some areas with the dynarette cushion. This support does not slide on the clothes while practicing and gives an amazing amount of confidence to the performer while practicing and performing.
The support also has a very professional appearance and stores very nicely in a Visesnut case. The customer support with the support is very helpful regarding the product and is very prompt in answering emails.
I highly recommend this support to concert guitarists.....a wonderful, innovative support for many years of enjoyable practice and concertizing!
Once I decided I needed a support, the next challenge was to figure out which one. The Sagework support seemed to be the best one out there, but I got the impression it was considered too expensive. Now, while I probably agree the wood version is quite pricey, the Umbra model is right there with many of the other top rated options.
I was fascinated by the magnet part of the design, but a bit concerned about mounting the magnets inside my guitar. All concerns went away after watching the installation videos.
The Sagework support is truly an amazing bit of design. The magnets were a bit harder to install than it seemed from the videos, but I may just have large hands. Getting the one on the lower bout was particularly difficult as it had to go quite low and I struggled to get my hands that far into the guitar. In the end I managed.
Quality is the word that comes to mind most often. The Sagework is highly adjustable, and the magnet system is incredible. I love the way the support locks on to the internal magnets and mounts in the exact same place every time.
I really like this product. The Umbra model's solid black color is very tasteful. I would have a hard time justifying the extra cost for the wood model.
I like the concept of the Umbra support system I have the magnets in all three of my guitars, 2 acoustic and 1 nylon string. I can switch the support to either one in a second. I wish the bottom part that rests on your leg was a little wider and would pivot. I like the neck of the guitar further away and the body close to me and in this position the support digs in to my leg. Not terrible for short sessions but a little uncomfortable for long sessions. One of the screws stripped when putting the arm on and at this price point I would expect maybe metal or brass nut plates instead of the plastic but overall I haven't found a better support for ease of changing from guitar to guitar. The suction cup one that I have I like very well but it pops off in the middle of a song so that's no good. So I guess the magnets are the way to go!
Appreciated installation video that was very clear. The support is sturdy and I love that it allows me to have a better playing position with both feet on the floor and I am not hunched over.
This support is probably the best I have. It was easier to install than I thought it would be, but I think I'll wait until I change strings on the other two guitars before I install the magnets. I just loosened the strings enough to put my hand into the guitar, and in seconds I had it where I wanted it. So far, I have only made one adjustment, and my back doesn't hurt anymore. It changed almost everything, and for the better I might add. Chords are easier, sitting is easier, balance is easier, the guitar doesn't move around at all, and I play better. And, I'm pretty well forced to learn the notes, which I always avoided. This has changed my guitar playing for the better, and that is quite a surprise. I had no idea that a good support could make this difference. I recommend it.
This is my second purchase of a guitar rest. Nice to have one with each guitar, and it fits nicely in the case. If I get another guitar, I’ll get another rest.
Inarguably the best guitar support around. I love the multipositions available, ease of attaching, removing and storage. This is my 2nd Sagework guitar support, the 1st one being an Atlas. Fully recommended.
I've continued to use my Umbra Tall and am beginning to become accustomed to it.
In fact, I'm beginning to actually like it quite a bit.
I still find it to be a bit heavy at 10.6 oz, but then my guitar is unusually lightweight.
The extra weight on that side seems to help keep the instrument in position so that my left hand doesn't have to support it.
The umbra does feel very secure and gravity works with it, unlike the suction cup models.
Even if I lean on it very hard, which I do when I'm very tired, it barely budges at all.
It's the best I've found, even at 10.6 oz.
Excellent support for the classical guitar player. A back saver as it helps keep me in a better playing position.
Very well made, easy to install, and sets up to exactly the same position every time prior to playing.
Works as advertised. Takes some getting used to. Seems VERY heavy, but I'm sitting down when I'm using it, so I guess that's OK. I'd like a lightweight model better -- maybe carbon fiber.
I am very happy with my Umbra model guitar support. It is sturdy and easy to adjust. I especially appreciate the consistent placement of the guitar. I ordered a set of additional magnets and adhesive tape, for a second guitar. Installation instructions and videos, made installation very doable.
Thanks for a good-looking, and effective support. Would you consider making adaptors for a Telecaster, or other solid body electric guitar, that are as elegant as your support.
It is made well and very adjustable although for my particular physical circumstance, I had to have assistance to install/adjust/fit the unit. The bulk/weight added to the instrument did not contribute to comfort and I had to discontinue the trial.It was mailed/returned yesterday, you should have it tomorrow.Thank you for your assistance.
What can I say , fixes my sore rump, easy one time install, especally if your hands are small. Thanks.
This is a fantastic support! It's stable. It adjusts exactly how you want it to. The installation is bombproof and easy. Great support, highly recommended!
timely delivery. Great for using the guitar support on separate guitars.